tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7357262844016295998.post7407071902675437978..comments2023-11-03T05:53:50.641-07:00Comments on With new eyes: Things that will surprise you in the Mosaic LawWesley Rostollhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14110189635576168594noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7357262844016295998.post-12752730912120327902015-09-16T14:38:17.011-07:002015-09-16T14:38:17.011-07:00Hi Wes
http://119ministries.com/abolish-or-fulfil...Hi Wes<br /><br />http://119ministries.com/abolish-or-fulfill very interesting check it out.<br />I have many scriptures to show you, I also can clearly see where you are coming from.<br />I will have to explain the full context. Remember that many of these scriptures you have brought up here refer to when Israel is in the land that G'd gave them, and He was in their midst. This was not the only conditions.<br />Therefore am I keeping G'd's commandments by going against the conditions that He has stated in His Word? <br />Many believers make a distinct difference with "G'd of the old testament" "G'd of the new testament", based purely on similar "conclusions". I ask the question what about Acts 5, and is G'd a liar or the same yesterday today and forever. <br /><br />The Law I believe deals with many things that sounds harsh and cruel, lets take the adulterous woman for instance - if the husband has suspected her of adultery she is blatantly stating no she is innocent she goes before G'd and states this in the temple, if she is guilty is she not lying to G'd similar to Ananias and Saphire in the NT?<br />I look at the cup that this adulterous woman is to drink - it reminds me of the cup my Saviour drank for me that "adulterous woman". Israel that Adulterous Woman that was to drink the cup, your sweet Messiah drank it for you.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14964399358462351557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7357262844016295998.post-23809197223901232862015-09-15T11:51:51.468-07:002015-09-15T11:51:51.468-07:00Hi Eric!
I have friends who think John Piper and ...Hi Eric!<br /><br />I have friends who think John Piper and MaCarthur are the bees knees so you are not going to offend me that easily :) I am 100% with you on points 2 and 3 and I love your concluding paragraph. As for point 1, I need to chew on it a while longer and read the links more thoroughly (I had a quick glance through them now). While I do not believe in inerrancy, I tend to think the OT has been misunderstood and misapplied rather than it just being plain old wrong. Jesus tended to interpret rather than challenge what Moses (and others) wrote beforehand. I am still processing this though and am eagerly awaiting Greg Boyd's "Crucifixion of the Warrior God" book, hoping that it will shed some more light on the topic for me. Thanks for the links though, let me spend some time in them and get back to you!Wesley Rostollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14110189635576168594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7357262844016295998.post-71224369434398018672015-09-14T16:07:51.364-07:002015-09-14T16:07:51.364-07:00Hi Wesley,
I hope this isn't going to be the ...Hi Wesley,<br /><br />I hope this isn't going to be the end of a beautiful friendship (??), but I think the solution is more radical than you have indicated.<br /><br />1. The scholars tell us that many OT laws are very similar to laws of contemporary pagan societies, and that many of the events surrounding the giving of the law are of doubtful historicity (see <a href="https://theway21stcentury.wordpress.com/bible-2/what-the-scholars-tell-us-about-the-old-testament/" rel="nofollow">What the scholars tell us about the Old Testament</a>. If the laws originated with God, they came by a circuitous route. It seems more likely that much of the early OT is legendary or not totally historical, and this may well apply to the Law.<br /><br />2. This doesn't mean that the Bible isn't inspired or doesn't convey information that God wants us to know, but that he used a different process than we might expect. CS Lewis said: <i>"If you take the Bible as a whole, you see a process in which something which, in its earliest levels (those aren’t necessarily the ones that come first in the Book as now arranged) was hardly moral at all, and was in some ways not unlike the Pagan religions, is gradually purged and enlightened till it becomes the religion of the great prophets and Our Lord Himself."</i> Read more at <a href="https://theway21stcentury.wordpress.com/2015/01/15/cs-lewis-on-the-bible-history-and-myth/" rel="nofollow">CS Lewis on the Bible, history and myth</a><br /><br />3. Jesus began a new covenant at the "Last Supper". We are no more under the OT law. See <a href="https://theway21stcentury.wordpress.com/bible-2/the-old-testament-law-and-christians/" rel="nofollow">The Old Testament Law and christians</a>.<br /><br />So I conclude that we don't have to follow those laws, we don't even have to think they were all absolutely from God, we can think that they were part of a process of God gradually revealing himself. The OT helps us understand who Jesus was and what he said, but our faith and reason to believe rest in him 100%. I think that is a more satisfying view, better based on the evidence.<br /><br />But of course it is a little scary at first.unkleEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12207729664951716799noreply@blogger.com